these seemed like the best candidates and ill test them soon. i found that the Hornady 55 grain soft point has the thinnest jacket of all the bullets i tested (0.010" thick) meaning it might expand better at lower speeds, and the Speer 52 grain hollow point had the second thinnest jacket (0.015" thick) along with a wide hollow point and a very large hollow cavity. i also took a file to a few bullets to see which ones i think would expand well. but i have found one thanks to "Buffman_LT1" by "Maker bullets" i think it was just called "expanding subsonic" on their website ( looks like a Leigh Defense "maximum expansion" bullet). I have done a fare amount of research on different 223 bullets and its hard to find any that will expand at subsonic speeds. So basically it would have to be a "special purpose" bullet and there is no market for it.Ĭast powder coated bullets is probably your best option. 223 simply because heavy needs a fast twist rate and fast twist rate and soft bullet is a bad combination at high velocity. IdeaIdeally you would want a heavy soft bullet for sub-sonic use but you are not going to be able to find any in. Most of them list a description for each bullet detailing it's intended use and it's intended velocity range. 223 I suggest you go to the various bullet manufacturer web sites and do some research. ![]() They are accurate and expand well.įor you. ![]() if they made a v-max 22lr i would be contempt. but i think a 223 subsonic with a good bullet will be much more devastating. Neither the writer, The Firing Line, nor the staff of TFL assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.Mostly because i like experimenting. I'm going to try 50gr soft point at Hornet velocities next for pelts on fox and bobcat.ĬAUTION: The following post includes loading data beyond or not covered by currently published maximums for this cartridge. I consider it to have made my bolt gun very versatile and loading reduced 223 is easier and cheaper than loading for a 22 Hornet or Fireball. Accuracy was as good as anything else the rifle has produced, it's quiet as a 22 Hornet, won't cycle an AR action but awesome for a bolt gun. I stayed in the ~10gr range for an estimated velocity of ~2700 and this was too much, it did NOT save fox pelts. Seafire at 24hourcampfire chronoed 40gr V-Max at 3375 with Blue Dot. It's great, accuracy is good and you can load from 22 Hornet velocities to 221 Fireball velocities to higher (low 223 velocities if I remember correctly without looking). I have used Blue Dot to load 40gr V-Max in a bolt gun for predators. If all of that has been considered, then I suppose it -IS- time to try making some of it up. So now you're either making quite a sight adjustment or you're going to set up a firearm to run this pistol powder-powered ammo exclusively. but be warned, your point of aim is likely to be radically different than with ammo built to 'normal' spec. If these are not dealbreakers, then you're still in business. Your ability to run a gas-op semi-auto is gone also. 223 with pistol powders, your velocity is GONE. If you run a different powder, you can lop some of that charge weight off, too. That's cheaper than bullets unless you're running lead slugs that you cast yourself or you have some slick swaging setup & your squeezing out home-brew jacketed bullets. That's 280 loaded rounds in a pound of powder. ![]() If I just throw out a "known" acceptable ballpark charge weight for. Even with powder perhaps at an all-time high, it still pales in comparison to what I'm spending on bullets. To the subject, I'd keep in mind what you actually gain and what you give up to get that savings. but a whole generation of handloaders have made Unique their "GO TO" pistol powder for decades. Unique may be known to some as a shotgun powder. Unique can do anything that's ever had the ability to be flung as a result of burning smokeless powder and it's a flake powder. or maybe you're splitting spherical powder balls in to flat flakes! Bullseye may be the original pistol powder of all of them.
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